Frequently Asked Practice Questions
We are pleased to provide you with the following list of questions and answers about licensure and practice for licensed professional engineers and land surveyors. This information is intended to provide general guidance to those who may have questions about licensing or professional conduct. The answers to the questions have been derived from provisions of Education Law, Commissioner's Regulations and Rules of the Board of Regents and administrative decisions made by the Sate Education Department. While they reflect provisions of Law, Regulation and interpretations, the legal application will depend upon the facts of a particular situation. Title VIII of the New York State Education Law and Title 8 of the Codes, Rules and Regulations of the State of New York (8NYCRR) control both licensing and professional regulation. See pertinent sections of the Law, Rules and Regulations at www.op.nysed.gov/title8/. If you have questions that are not directly addressed by this section or believe special factual circumstances may distinguish your question from those addressed here, you are advised to consult private legal counsel or you may contact the Office of the Professions' State Board for Engineering and Land Surveying.
- In New York State, who can practice professional
Section 7202/7204 of the New York State Education Law states that, "Only a person licensed or otherwise authorized under this article shall practice engineering/land surveying or use the title 'professional engineer/land surveyor.'" A "person licensed" is an individual that has qualified by education, experience and examination, and has been issued a New York State professional engineering license or land surveying license by the State Education Department.
- Who would be considered "otherwise
Persons "otherwise authorized" may include an individual person (but not a New York State corporation of any kind) licensed in another state that has applied for and received a limited permit to practice for a specific time period or with respect to a specific project in accordance with the Commissioner's Regulations part 68.8.
- If I am already licensed as a professional
engineer/land surveyor in one or more states, how can I become
licensed in New York State?
The department may license an applicant who meets all requirements for licensure in New York State, except examination, and has been issued a license or certificate to practice professional engineering or land surveying upon written examination by a legally constituted board of examiners in any other state or political subdivision of the United States, provided that the examination for such license or certificate was the equivalent of the examination required in this State at the time it was issued, in accordance with Commissioner's Regulations part 68.7.
- What is the difference between "licensure" and "registration"?
When an individual successfully completes the licensure requirements they are awarded a professional license. The license is valid for life unless it is surrendered or revoked following disciplinary action by the Board of Regents.
Professional engineers and land surveyors in New York must register with the State Education Department every three years to practice their profession, pursuant to Commissioner's Regulations part 59.8.
- Who is required to take continuing education
and how many hours must be completed?
Every New York State licensed and registered professional engineer and land surveyor must complete continuing education unless you satisfy the requirements of the public sector exemption outlined in the continuing education regulations. Professional engineers will be required to complete 36 hours of continuing education during each three-year registration period. Land surveyors will be required to complete 24 hours of continuing education during each three-year registration period.
- What kind of business entities can provide
Some professionals practice their profession as individual licensed practitioners. Others practice in some sort of corporate or business entity structure. Not all such structures may legally provide professional services. The following brief descriptions are based in law and address different corporate practice venues. These descriptions provide basic information on acceptable organizational structures for professionals. This general information is no substitute for consulting the law and/or an attorney directly for guidance before deciding to practice in a specific corporate arrangement. There are many factors, including tax consequences, and personal and professional liability, to consider when deciding which form a professional practice should take.
- Professional service corporations (PSC) authorized under Article 15 (domestic - New York) of the New York State Business Corporation Law. All shareholders, officers, and directors must be licensed by New York State in one or more of the design profession(s) they are practicing (engineering, land surveying, architecture, landscape architecture).
- Professional service corporations (PSC) authorized under Article 15-A (foreign PSC) of the New York State Business Corporation Law. Only the individual(s) actually providing professional services must be licensed in New York State. All other officers, directors, and shareholders must be licensed design professionals in some jurisdiction.
- Professional limited liability companies and foreign professional limited liability companies. All members must be licensed to provide professional services in New York State.
- Partnerships, limited liability partnerships, and foreign limited liability partnerships. All partners must be licensed to provide professional services in New York State.
- General Business Corporations "inc."
- Except where specifically authorized by law, general business corporations cannot provide professional engineering and/or land surveying services, exercise any judgment over the delivery of professional engineering and/or land surveying services, have employees who offer professional engineering or land surveying services to the public, hold itself out as offering professional engineering and/or land surveying services, or share profits or split fees with licensed professionals.
- A General Business Corporation may employ licensed professionals to provide in-house services. For example General Motors may employ licensed or unlicensed engineers to provide engineering services for the corporation. However, General Motors may not set up a business to provide engineering services to the public.
- The exception are a finite group of general business
corporations that were in existence and providing professional
engineering and/or land surveying services on April 15,
1935, and continuously thereafter, and were lawfully engaged
in the practice of professional engineering in New York
State. State law requires that the chief executive officer
be a New York State licensed professional engineer or land
surveyor as appropriate. (These corporations are often
referred to as "grandfathered" corporations).
They may be bought and sold and may or may not retain a
corporate address in New York. However, as long as they
retain their corporate identity and stay in compliance
with New York laws, they may continue to provide professional
engineering and/or land surveying services in New York.
- Are business entities required to be certified
to provide professional engineering and/or land surveying services?
- All business entities legally permitted to provide professional engineering and/or land surveying services in New York State are required to obtain a "Certificate of Authorization to Provide Engineering or Land Surveying Services in New York State" from the State Education Department according to section 7210 of the New York State Education Law. This requirement applies to all types of business entities listed previously as well as general business corporations that are authorized pursuant to section 7209(6) of the Education Law - the "grandfathered" corporations.
- Individual licensees, who are legally permitted to practice engineering and/or land surveying in New York State, can obtain a "Certificate of Authorization" according to section 7210 of New York State Education Law, however, they are not required to do so.
- Additional information and the
Application for a Certificate
of Authorization to Provide Professional Engineering or Land
Surveying Services in New York State are available on this
site or can be obtained by contacting the Office of
Professions, Professional Corporations Unit at 518-474-3817
ext. 400; Fax 518-473-5515; e-mail firstname.lastname@example.org.
- Is a business entity that provides both
professional engineering and land surveying services required
to obtain two (2) Certificates of Authorization?
Yes - business entities, as listed in question 6, that are legally permitted to provide professional engineering and land surveying services in New York State are required to obtain two (2) Certificates of Authorization; one Certificate to provide professional engineering services and a second Certificate to provide land surveying services. For more information contact the Office of Professions, Professional Corporations Unit at 518-474-3817 Ext. 400; Fax 518-473-5515; e-mail email@example.com.
- Can a general business corporation, an "inc.", provide
professional engineering and/or land surveying services?
Generally speaking, no. However, there is a finite group of general business corporations that may provide professional engineering and/or land surveying services. These corporations were in existence and providing professional engineering services on April 15, 1935, and continuously thereafter, and were lawfully engaged in the practice of professional engineering in New York State. State law requires that the chief executive officer be a New York State licensed professional engineer and/or land surveyor. (These corporations are often referred to as "grandfathered" corporations). They may be bought and sold and may or may not retain a corporate address in New York. However, as long as they retain their corporate identity and stay in compliance with New York laws, they may continue to provide professional engineering and/or land surveying services in New York.
- Can a general business corporation that
is authorized to practice engineering and/or land surveying
in another state do so in New York?
No entity or individual except those described in the preceding (including a general business corporation that may be authorized under the laws of another state to practice there) may practice professional engineering and/or land surveying in New York State. A foreign professional service corporation is exempt from this general prohibition as previously described.
- Can a person who is licensed in New York and is an officer or employee of an out-of-state business corporation that provides professional engineering or land surveying services in the other state provide engineering and/or land surveying services in New York, as an officer or employee of that company?
No. Not as an employee or officer of that company. A person who is licensed (or otherwise authorized) to practice in New York State and is an officer or employee of a general business corporation operating in New York State or in a state other than New York cannot provide professional engineering or land surveying services in New York as an officer or employee of that firm, but can do so as an individual. In other words, a contract with a New York client must be between the individual licensee and the client and not the corporation employer and the client.
- Can an entity not authorized to provide
professional engineering or land surveying services in New
York, such as a general contractor, subcontract with a licensed
professional engineer or land surveyor in order to provide
No. An entity not authorized to provide professional engineering and/or land surveying services, such as a general contractor, can not subcontract with a licensed professional engineer or land surveyor in order to provide professional services to a third party client. The basis for professional regulation is that the service of the professional must be provided directly from the professional to the client without any unlicensed third party between the client and the professional. This unlicensed third party may have other interests (such as financial) that could jeopardize the level and/or quality of the professional service received by the client.
- What are the consequences of someone engaging
in unlicensed or unauthorized practice?
The laws of the State are clear in regard to unauthorized practice. Section 6512.1 of the Education Law makes it a class E felony for anyone not authorized to practice who practices or offers to practice or holds themselves out as being able to practice professional engineering/land surveying. Section 6509 defines professional misconduct as, among other things, permitting, aiding or abetting an unlicensed person to perform activities requiring a license; and, section 6512.2 makes it a class E felony for anyone, including a public official, to knowingly aid or abet three or more unlicensed persons to practice a profession requiring a license.
- What is 'design delegation'?
The New York State Board of Regents adopted a revision to section 29.3(b) in its rules on unprofessional conduct for the design professions. This revision, which became effective June 14, 1996, describes activities of licensed professionals which will not be considered to be unprofessional conduct. In order to assist design professionals to better understand its meaning and applicability, the following "plain language" interpretation of the revision has been prepared.
- It is not unprofessional conduct for a licensed professional to delegate or assign the performance of a professional service through an unlicensed third party, such as a contractor or subcontractor, to another licensee.
- It is not unprofessional conduct for the licensee to whom the work is delegated to accept and perform such work.
- Under these circumstances, the unlicensed third party would not be considered to be engaging in illegal practice.
- The work that can be delegated must be limited to work that is "ancillary" to the main project components.
- The licensee delegating the work must specify all of the design parameters that the design must meet.
- The licensee who has delegated the design function, upon receiving the design, must review and approve the design as meeting the design parameters that were specified and to ensure that the designed element can be integrated into the overall project.
- A licensee is always responsible for his or her work even
if such work has been endorsed or accepted by another licensee.
- In New York State, who can provide home
inspection of residential buildings for compensation?
Real Property Law was amended September 2004 by adding a new Article 12-B "The Home Inspection Professional Licensing Act." Starting December 31, 2005 a license issued by the NYS Department of State (DOS) will be required for persons engaged in performing home inspections of residential buildings for compensation. Exempt from this licensure requirement are architects and professional engineers licensed and currently registered by the NYS Office of Professions who are lawfully practicing within the scope of their profession. For more information on the Home Inspection Professional Licensing Act, visit the DOS Web site .
- When may a Professional Engineer provide home inspection
services under the exemption in "The Home Inspection Professional
In accordance with Article 12-B "The Home Inspection Professional Licensing Act" a professional engineer may provide home inspection services under the exemption when:
- They are providing these services as part of their practice as a professional engineer. The professional engineer's business entity must have a Certificate of Authorization to provide engineering services issued by the New York State Education Department or, if a sole proprietor licensed as professional engineer, they must qualify for such a Certificate. For information regarding the entities that may legally provide engineering services and how to obtain a Certificate of Authorization, please see question Nos. 6 and 7.
A Professional Engineer may not provide home inspection services under the exemption if they are an owner, employee or subcontractor of a general business corporation or "Inc.". Under this scenario they would need to obtain a home inspection license.
Note: There are a finite group of general business corporations that were in existence and providing professional engineering services on April 15, 1935, and continuously thereafter, and were lawfully engaged in the practice of professional services in New York State. (These corporations are often referred to as "grandfathered" corporations and hold a Certificate of Authorization to practice engineering). Such corporations may lawfully provide professional services within the state and may not need to obtain a license to perform home inspection if such inspection is performed within the scope of practice of engineering.
- When may a land surveyor, authorized agent or employee of
such licensee, when performing surveying services in accordance
with Education Law, section 7203 of Article 145, enter or cross
lands necessary to perform surveying services?
In accordance with General Obligations Law section 9-105 a land surveyor, authorized agent or employee may cross or enter land when:
- "reasonable efforts" have been made to notify the landowner and if applicable the lessee, that they have an intention to enter the land to make a survey. Notification should include the name of the land surveyor, scheduled date, and time of entry and duration of survey. In addition, the land surveyor should document their attempts at notification, and these attempts should be in writing.
- operations related to the survey upon such land are performed during reasonable hours and within a reasonable distance from the property line of the land being surveyed.
- proper identification as to registration or employment
is carried and displayed upon request.
- What are the consequences of a land surveyor, authorized
agent or employee for non-compliance with right of entry requirements
established in General Obligation Law section 9-105 in question
The licensee may, where circumstances warrant, be found guilty of misconduct in accordance with the Rules of the Board of Regents part 29.1 - willful or grossly negligent failure to comply with Federal, State or local laws, rules or regulations governing the practice of the profession. In addition, failure to comply with the right of entry requirements of General Obligation Law 9-105 could remove any protection the land surveyor, agent or employee may have under the law.
Please note: under this statute, the land surveyor, agent or employee would appear to continue to be civilly liable for damage to land or personal property and may not enter any building or structure on such land.